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Wondrous Wednesday 07: Bohmian Mechanics and Spin

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Deep dive into Bohmian mechanics perspective on spin. Particles are just dots with positions - all properties (mass, charge) are in the wave function. Spin isn't real spinning - it's wave function dynamics. Explains Bell experiments: position is predetermined but spin value depends on experimental setup communicated through wave function. The hidden "now" mystery - quantum mechanics requires it but it's undetectable.

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0:00 All right, welcome to Arts and Ideas in the Air, Under the Tent and Around Baltimore's
0:07 Wondrous Wednesday.
0:09 So I'm trying to finish up the physics stuff of Wondrous Wednesday for now.
0:16 I think maybe I could say something interesting about quantum field theory, it's always cool,
0:22 next time and then maybe that'll be it.
0:25 Today I wanted to talk about quantum mechanics from a Bohmian perspective, in particular
0:33 this thing called spin, which I talked about last time in the context of showing that there
0:39 is non-locality in the world, meaning that in some sense there is a now, which contradicts
0:50 relativity which says there's no now, and that's sort of like the heart of the tension
0:56 in modern physics that for some reason few people are focused on and is absolutely essential
1:04 in making sense of what people really talk about.
1:08 Now there are a number of quantum mechanical theories that one can talk about and make
1:14 sense of and the one that I like is called Bohmian mechanics.
1:21 The idea is the world is made up of particles moving around and their motion is dictated
1:28 by this wave function.
1:30 Now the most extreme version of this theory is that particles are just simply things with
1:37 positions, they have no sort of weight, mass we like to talk about in physics, no electric
1:45 charge, no nothing, it's just dots moving around and all of those properties, the weight
1:52 and electricity and electric charge and whatever, is all embedded in the wave function itself.
2:00 This is going to be a pretty important idea and what I'm about to explain.
2:04 So last time I talked about spin being think of like a ball on a stick and you're spinning
2:11 it and you can either kind of spin it to the left or you can spin it to the right and you
2:15 can change how the stick points.
2:17 So that's sort of the one sort of supposed to have in mind when one talks about the spin
2:23 of an electron, it spins and this way or that and you know when you subject it to an electromagnetic
2:32 field it always seems as if it's pointing in sort of a definite state, it just kind
2:46 of chooses one and so it goes up or down based on that.
2:58 So the idea is that when you're choosing different directions for spin, it could be anything
3:13 but for some reason when you measure it, it always comes out as if it was pointing in
3:18 the direction that you're caring about measuring and it goes up or down.
3:22 So that's the thing to keep in mind.
3:25 It doesn't make sense classically, classically it could be pointing in any direction and
3:32 then its trajectory would be different based on that.
3:37 So it's weird, right?
3:38 We have this like quantum mechanical thing, like say an electron, very small little thing
3:42 and it's moving in a way that kind of suggests it's a spinning little ball on a stick except
3:50 it doesn't really quite make sense with the classical picture because it was always, no
3:57 matter how you measure it, the axis is always such that it lines up with the measuring device
4:03 in a certain way and it shouldn't.
4:09 And what quantum mechanics says is what is the probability of it being like up or down.
4:13 Now there are other different types of particles with different types of spin results in terms
4:19 of kind of how many ups and downs there might be, you know, there's different states, but
4:25 whatever.
4:27 Electrons are what are called spin one half and they just have the two states, so that's
4:32 nice.
4:33 We'll just focus on them.
4:34 Now Bohmian mechanics says, okay, so standard quantum mechanics says all we can do is talk
4:42 about these probabilities based on the state of the wave function, whatever that means.
4:46 There's these things called operators, they have these things called eigenvectors and
4:51 eigenvalues and it's all this complicated mumbo jumbo that sounds really abstract.
4:57 One can actually, it's actually in some ways with spin, very simple mathematics, relatively
5:06 speaking and, but it doesn't make any sense, there's no intuition about it.
5:15 More importantly, the standard statements is just that these things happen when you
5:22 measure and that's about it.
5:25 No discussion of what a measurement really is, how that comes about, how is a measurement
5:30 something part of a fundamental theory.
5:33 Like the world isn't just a set of measurements, it's us living in our world and so how does
5:38 all these things come about?
5:40 All right, so now Bohmian mechanics says, okay, we've got this wave function evolving
5:45 just according to the usual quantum mechanical sort of nice evolutions, ignoring this kind
5:51 of like discrete kind of like jumping up or down or whatever.
5:58 And instead you have a particle, many, well, all the particles being guided by this one
6:04 wave function.
6:07 And so the idea is that, that basically as this wave function evolves according to all
6:17 the dynamics, the particle's position as it travels will kind of select that part of the
6:25 wave function that's relevant to the future stuff.
6:29 And that's why it all kind of like collapses into something definite because of that particle
6:34 position.
6:37 All right, so that's Bohmian mechanics very briefly, talked about it number of weeks ago.
6:47 But now for spin, what happens is, so let's just focus with one particle.
6:52 One particle is flowing along and the wave function splits into two pieces because of
7:01 this measurement apparatus for detecting spin.
7:05 And it's all just playing around with the values of this wave function, they're complicated
7:11 things, they're little, they're actually like kind of little arrows you might say.
7:15 And it, you know, there's a dynamics associated with it and you have the split and then the
7:21 particle goes with it.
7:23 And so if the particle happens to be in the bit that goes up, then the particle goes up.
7:29 If it happens to be in the bit that goes down, then it goes down.
7:33 It's just following along with the wave function.
7:35 Now there is actually no spinning, nothing's spinning.
7:41 That electron is not actually spinning, it's just a dot moving along with the wave function.
7:48 And from a Bohmian perspective, the interesting thing that is about these experiments is that
7:54 if you analyze it in the framework of Bohmian mechanics, you can set up a scenario where
8:01 basically a particle in the upper half, kind of this wave function always goes up and the
8:08 one in the lower part always goes down.
8:12 And that's just how it works.
8:14 And it actually, if you flip the electromagnetic field, the thing still goes up if it went
8:21 up before and still goes down if it went down before.
8:23 But now because of that switch, one interprets the up and down in the opposite direction.
8:30 And so, you know, instead of spinning the ball left, say, you're spinning it right.
8:36 That would be the classical interpretation of that result.
8:40 And that's just not, like, nothing changed about the particle itself in this theory.
8:45 You can just rewind it and replay it, except you just now are playing a different measurement
8:50 and you're interpreting that measurement in a different way.
8:53 And that's all fine.
8:56 But so it's in this sense that spin is not real.
9:02 And spin not being real is, well, kind of shocking to many people who study quantum
9:11 mechanics because they're always talking about spin.
9:13 It's almost like, you know, the canonical examples and so forth.
9:20 And then there you have it.
9:23 Now let's get back to what we were talking about last week where you had two particles
9:27 that were paired in such a way that they fly off.
9:31 If one goes up, the other one goes down, and then vice versa.
9:35 So this is the kind of the setup of the Bell experiments and basically the fact that one
9:40 could go up while the other one goes down was suggesting that there was something predetermined
9:46 about it because these measurements happen so far apart, or that they're communicating
9:52 faster than light.
9:55 And in fact, it's the latter, and Bell's work showed that it had to be the latter, not the
10:00 former.
10:01 But the interesting thing is, of course, Bohmian mechanics actually has something that seems
10:05 to be predetermined, right?
10:08 Particles are at these definite positions.
10:12 Well, so what's going on here?
10:15 Well, basically, the value of the spin is not defined beforehand.
10:23 That's not defined.
10:24 The position of the particle is, but spin doesn't mean anything until you have an experimental
10:30 setup.
10:31 So if you have this experimental setup that you're going to change and they're kind of
10:35 far apart, then as soon as that experiment, you know, does its measurement on the thing,
10:42 it changes the wave function.
10:44 It separates the two pieces that used to be together, the two pieces being, you know,
10:49 one piece that goes up and one piece that goes down, they were living together.
10:53 And now because of the measurement, they're living in separate worlds.
10:56 Why is that?
10:57 Because now there's a kind of an extra dimension, you might say, the environment, the measurement
11:05 results, whatever.
11:06 But there's an extra dimension that kind of separates them, these two pieces, and wherever
11:10 the particle happened to be in one of those two pieces, it'll flow along with that piece.
11:17 And it's instantaneous, and this is the weird thing, but it's instantaneous and so it affects
11:23 the other piece.
11:24 And so the other piece, you know, the wave functions are correlated, I mean, it's the
11:30 same wave function, but I mean, these separate kind of pieces in our physical space are correlated
11:35 so that if on the one side of the piece went up, that the particle was in, then on the
11:42 other side of the other particle would be in a piece that went down.
11:45 And that's just sort of how that works, which comes out of the mathematics and evolution
11:51 and setup of these experiments and whatever.
11:55 So biomechanics has this weird thing where it does say it's kind of predetermined in
12:04 a certain sense, in the sense that there's position, but it's really not because it depends
12:10 on the experimental setup, and that setup is communicated to these distant pieces through
12:16 the wave function.
12:17 This wave function is this universal thing that lives in a now, and it requires knowing
12:25 where everything else in the universe is right now in order to really use it.
12:29 I mean, most of the time it's not that dependent on it, practically speaking, but technically
12:35 it depends on the position of everything in the universe right now.
12:42 And that's kind of like a hard thing to swallow, except it's really just reflecting on the
12:53 fact that there needs to be a now for quantum mechanics.
12:57 But it is the heart of the mystery and the problem.
13:02 Now in a relativistic setup, basically one does need to figure out what this now is.
13:10 You have to put it into the theory to make it sensible, and so one can do it.
13:16 The easiest thing is just to pick one.
13:19 You just pick the slices of now, just say this is what it is, and so you run your evolution
13:27 of the system with that slicing, and it's all good and everything works out and everything's
13:32 fine.
13:33 If you picked a different slicing, you would also have something that worked out just fine,
13:38 but it would be a different kind of working out, that kind of slicing up of space and
13:45 time into kind of things of now does impact the evolution of the particles, but it doesn't
13:54 impact the statistics.
13:56 And so there's no way to detect that now, which is also weird, that now is completely
14:03 hidden from us, even in a theory that relies on the now.
14:06 It all just kind of fits, but it's all sort of like, what?
14:11 That's the mystery.
14:12 That's the wonder.
14:13 Why do you have this fundamental thing that requires a now, and then that now gets hidden?
14:21 Completely hidden, can't be detected.
14:27 So that's the mystery.
14:30 There are ways of defining this now in some ways, such as like, say, kind of the time
14:38 distance to the Big Bang, there's kind of a center of mass kind of frame of reference
14:45 that you can kind of do in relativity.
14:49 There are different ways.
14:50 There's even attempts to define it from the wave function itself.
14:54 So the wave function evolves.
14:56 It doesn't need this slicing.
14:58 That's why the slicing isn't apparent, but you can actually define a slicing from it
15:06 in some ways, and so you can use that, but there's nothing compelling the choice, and
15:11 that's sort of the problem.
15:17 So yeah.
15:22 So that's boy mechanics, somewhat in a nutshell.
15:26 It essentially says there's these definite results because there's definite particles
15:31 moving around.
15:32 They're being guided by the wave function.
15:34 All the weirdness is in the wave function, which also means that in all these different
15:37 interpretations of quantum mechanics, that weirdness is also present.
15:42 All the weirdness is kind of encapsulated in the wave function, and particles are just
15:46 moving around to give us this definite sense of reality.
15:50 Now there are other theories, such as mini worlds, which is kind of like saying, well,
15:54 instead of having this one definite choice, all the choices happen, and one can write
15:59 down a theory that actually makes sense of that in some ways, but it's kind of weird,
16:04 because you don't really know what the probabilities mean, because now everything kind of happens,
16:08 and so it's kind of in the perspective of the universe of this one thing kind of seeing
16:14 the future, and this one, and I don't know, it's not really clear what one gains from
16:20 it, except to say, well, we were using all this thing all the time, and there you go.
16:26 There's also things that actually modify the evolution of the wave function to try to have
16:31 things collapse.
16:33 There's kind of a range of parameters that work for them, and that range has been getting
16:37 narrow and narrow as experiments get better and better.
16:40 Maybe in 20, 30 years, those will all be ruled out.
16:43 I don't know.
16:44 I don't know how good the range is or not, and what we can realistically deal with, but
16:50 so there are other theories.
16:53 I like Bohm mechanics because, well, basically the whole thing started by saying, okay, what
17:00 if we had particles, and so those things should have position, and as soon as you do that,
17:04 you write down Bohm mechanics.
17:05 It's really a pretty easy theory to write down if you know the mathematics, and you
17:10 know some simple facts about quantum mechanics.
17:13 It's not that hard to get.
17:16 So that's in a nutshell Bohm mechanics.
17:23 I might try to talk about quantum field theory next time, particularly in connection with
17:29 Bohm mechanics, and we'll see how those things go, and that's all I have to say.
17:41 All right.
17:42 Have a good day, and see you all later.