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Talkabout Tuesday 13: The Graduation and Thesis Process

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Summary

At 18, students either "age out" (just leave) or do thesis process. Thesis: past/present/future reflection on readiness for next steps. Advisory group (staff + student) helps. Defense before panel of 3 Sudbury staff from other schools. Unlike other Sudbury schools, ANI gives feedback but doesn't pass/fail. Process helps transition - some need formal steps to mark ending. Diploma awarded to both paths.

Transcript

0:00 Welcome to ANI in the air talking about Tuesday where I talk about something
0:06 about the school. Today I was gonna I'm going to talk about graduation, that
0:11 process. So when someone gets to be about the age of 18 in our school that is
0:21 around the time when they leave our school. We do have wiggle room in our
0:25 rules for people leaving slightly earlier and slightly later but those are
0:30 not the norm. Usually it's at age 18 and essentially there's two ways. One can
0:39 just what we call age out which is essentially you just don't come back. We
0:45 do have a little ceremony at the end of the year and people who choose that
0:50 route get just the same amount of ceremony time as those who do the thesis
0:57 process which I'll describe shortly. But these are people who feel quite
1:03 comfortable with what they've done and and don't feel the need to really kind
1:08 of capstone it and that's cool with us. Then there are others most of our
1:16 graduates have done this where we have this thesis process where basically
1:21 they're trying to address the question of you know what are they going to do
1:26 next why are they ready for it and how did the school help them do that and how
1:31 do they you know do they you know understand the school and so forth. So
1:36 it's kind of a bit of a past present and future reflection and you know the idea
1:43 is to just be able to sit down and you know work through writing up a piece
1:50 about this. It's done with some kind of advisory group you know at least one
2:02 staff and one student although it can be more and you know that that group is
2:08 there to help students do this. Most of our students have never had to do sort
2:16 of a big paper like that although they have of course been communicating all
2:23 sorts of ideas and notions throughout their time here just not kind of in a
2:27 more formal setting with a paper and then having to defend it in front of a
2:31 panel of outsiders basically. Once they've written their thesis it goes off
2:38 to a panel of three generally Sudbury staff members of other schools and then
2:47 there's a little defense of it where the panel can ask lots of questions and the
2:54 graduate then answers them and our process is one of getting feedback from
3:01 them as well as getting feedback throughout the process from the
3:04 advisory group. So you know there's a there's kind of a question as to what
3:09 this how this really fits in with Sudbury stuff. In general we don't really you
3:18 know support the idea of formal approval of stuff you know things things work
3:25 things don't work you know people interact with each other well or not
3:30 well they communicate their ideas well or not you know it's all natural
3:34 whatever works works and this is a bit different this is really kind of
3:39 structured. In part it is to help people you know our students take the next
3:46 steps being able to write up formal reports are useful in a variety of
3:52 different things that you know people might do such as going to a college or
4:00 you know working in a place that requires reports and so forth or you
4:09 know just being able to communicate online with people in a kind of a
4:13 in-depth fashion this this can all help that but I think even more than all that
4:19 the real value is just you know really sort of having that time and space to
4:28 really reflect on as well as plan on you know what was what has happened and what
4:35 will what is to come there's it's a it's a kind of a nice sort of way of saying
4:42 yeah I am I'm finishing this place and it's it's it's a formal process to to
4:48 help that make a reality it's you know some people can just get up one day and
4:55 be like see ya and not come back but I think a lot of people they need a
4:59 process they need something that says okay I'm working through the end of this
5:03 I'm taking these steps and that is you know basically what it's all about I've
5:16 certainly enjoyed my time being on the advising groups I don't really expect to
5:21 be on a panel um for other schools because most other schools it's actually
5:27 yes you pass or no you don't pass kind of thing and I I think that I'm not in
5:35 favor of that kind of system you know who are we to say whether someone's
5:39 ready or not I just think it's it's useful to have the feedback and you know
5:46 certainly when we do our practice panels I give pretty I try to give pretty good
5:52 strong feedback as well as when I'm working with a thesis student throughout
5:59 yeah so that's just kind of a little bit of insight into it as always you know
6:11 basically our diploma which is a road to both those who aged out and to those
6:15 complete thesis it's not accredited but it is something that our students are
6:21 proud of I think and that's always it's always fun to see what it is people
6:30 produce what they've been thinking about and that was it's an enjoyable process I
6:38 think for many all right well I think that's enough rambling of this for now
6:49 yeah all right well you all have a good one I'll see you when I see you